32 thoughts on “Is there a Black Hack derived or similar feeling “Gamma World” hack?”

  1. Graham Meinert Savage Worlds isn’t very rules lite or OSR-0ish. The thing I like about Black Hack is that it is straight forward and pretty light on rules. I’ve gamed since the early 80s as a kid but I like the lighter, sandbox games these days (a lot of PbtA, some FATE, Cthulhu Dark, etc).

  2. Graham Meinert Savage Worlds isn’t very rules lite or OSR-0ish. The thing I like about Black Hack is that it is straight forward and pretty light on rules. I’ve gamed since the early 80s as a kid but I like the lighter, sandbox games these days (a lot of PbtA, some FATE, Cthulhu Dark, etc).

  3. On Savage Worlds – while it does operate without classes, I’d suggest that it is more akin to OSR games than PbtA games are. It is more driven by challenges than narrative. Character death, while a rarer event than in 1st Ed, AD&D, DCC or LotFP is more likely than the vast majority of Apocalypse Engine games.

    Similarly while not the first thought for rules light, its mechanics are far lighter than many OSR systems. To-Hit is 4+ melee is simply highest roll. Pretty much covers skills too.

    It’s, I suspect, a matter of we tend to think of certain titles and players as part of whatever category rather than examine the thing.

    All that said, Death is the New Pink is an excellent suggestion.

  4. On Savage Worlds – while it does operate without classes, I’d suggest that it is more akin to OSR games than PbtA games are. It is more driven by challenges than narrative. Character death, while a rarer event than in 1st Ed, AD&D, DCC or LotFP is more likely than the vast majority of Apocalypse Engine games.

    Similarly while not the first thought for rules light, its mechanics are far lighter than many OSR systems. To-Hit is 4+ melee is simply highest roll. Pretty much covers skills too.

    It’s, I suspect, a matter of we tend to think of certain titles and players as part of whatever category rather than examine the thing.

    All that said, Death is the New Pink is an excellent suggestion.

  5. Albert Billings​, SW may not be a flavor you care for – that’s a fair enough criticism. In my own admission, I agree with you completely on GURPS but am a fan of Champions (but never saw the point of broadening the system to Hero).

  6. Albert Billings​, SW may not be a flavor you care for – that’s a fair enough criticism. In my own admission, I agree with you completely on GURPS but am a fan of Champions (but never saw the point of broadening the system to Hero).

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