I have moved on from the online shopping phase of my illness (I think I accidentally deleted the post from earlier), and solidly into the Song of Ice and Fire reddit fan theories phase. This will probably take awhile.
Here’s one I like: Jojen Reed is actually Howland Reed. Boom! I just blew your mind, didn’t I?
Please keep us appraised with your reactions to insane theories.
Please keep us appraised with your reactions to insane theories.
One of the nice things about this series, given its length and hundreds of significant characters, is it allows crazy people to continue being endlessly crazy, without hurting themselves or others.
One of the nice things about this series, given its length and hundreds of significant characters, is it allows crazy people to continue being endlessly crazy, without hurting themselves or others.
Obviously it’s flypaper for insane people. That’s why I have my 45 page paper on why JRRM is a govt plant and 9-11 was clearly explained by book 3. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Obviously it’s flypaper for insane people. That’s why I have my 45 page paper on why JRRM is a govt plant and 9-11 was clearly explained by book 3. WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
Please keep up the play by play of your feverish actions… Wondering how far this will go
Please keep up the play by play of your feverish actions… Wondering how far this will go
There is a great theory in which basically every character is a Faceless Man: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/53858-adwd-spoilers-the-grand-faceless-men-conspiracy-theory/
There is a great theory in which basically every character is a Faceless Man: http://asoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/topic/53858-adwd-spoilers-the-grand-faceless-men-conspiracy-theory/
Sorry, it’s that everyone is Varys, and Varys is a Faceless Man. I’m pretty sure there are points in the book when Varys would be speaking to himself if this was the case, but, you know, whatevs.
Sorry, it’s that everyone is Varys, and Varys is a Faceless Man. I’m pretty sure there are points in the book when Varys would be speaking to himself if this was the case, but, you know, whatevs.
Shut down reddit app (where I’d been reading about Freys and about how Kit Harrington’s hair is still long), open up G+. First post, and I’m home again.
Shut down reddit app (where I’d been reading about Freys and about how Kit Harrington’s hair is still long), open up G+. First post, and I’m home again.
My recent favorite is about how there used to be two moons, and how one of them was destroyed by the red comet (which is symbolically equivalent to Lightbringer or something like that). This released the dragons across the world (“Moon is egg.” “It is known.”), and the impacts from moon debris triggered the Long Night. In the aftermath, Planetos has a crazy cycle of seasons.
It is part of this moon that some Dayne or other fashioned into Dawn (which, by the way, is a candle of sorts), and all of this ties into the Others, the PTWP, Azor Ahai, and the reforging of Lightbringer. Also, Quaithe is Ashara Dayne, who is of course Dany’s mother.
The whole thing is even more convoluted than that, but it holds together surprisingly well.
My recent favorite is about how there used to be two moons, and how one of them was destroyed by the red comet (which is symbolically equivalent to Lightbringer or something like that). This released the dragons across the world (“Moon is egg.” “It is known.”), and the impacts from moon debris triggered the Long Night. In the aftermath, Planetos has a crazy cycle of seasons.
It is part of this moon that some Dayne or other fashioned into Dawn (which, by the way, is a candle of sorts), and all of this ties into the Others, the PTWP, Azor Ahai, and the reforging of Lightbringer. Also, Quaithe is Ashara Dayne, who is of course Dany’s mother.
The whole thing is even more convoluted than that, but it holds together surprisingly well.
It’s amazing what the slightest hint of possibility will trigger
It’s amazing what the slightest hint of possibility will trigger
Sometimes I feel like a bad geek. I don’t read these books, I don’t watch this show… But on this post, not so much! I love the fan theories of the setting!
Sometimes I feel like a bad geek. I don’t read these books, I don’t watch this show… But on this post, not so much! I love the fan theories of the setting!
Part of the reason so much insanity has come out of the fandom for ASoIaF is, of course, that GRRM takes the fuck forever to write a book, and people get so antsy for new material that they start making it up.
But another part of it is something I’m coming to appreciate a lot more now that I’m reading up on all the tinfoil. Namely, it’s that these books have zoom to them. There’s detail to support vastly different levels of reader involvement and scrutiny, and it’s to such a degree that of course it takes the dude longer to write.
Reading the books for the surface-level story? No problem. Starks and Lannisters and Targaryans. It works.
Reading to see what you may have missed the first time around? Jon Snow’s parentage, what happened with Jaqen H’ghar, who the Knight of the Laughing Tree was? No problem; it’s in there, but you may have to assemble the puzzle pieces yourself.
And you can go even further than that. Reasonable inferences based on GRRM’s proclivities or the way characters seem to work. Prophecies and Easter eggs and casual asides.
It just goes a bit awry when people squint so hard looking for clues that they start seeing canals on Mars. The lemon tree means Dany grew up in Dorne, which is why R+L=D. Roose Bolton is an immortal skin-changer who is waiting for the right moment to skin Ramsay. Everyone who isn’t Varys is Euron/Daario/Benjen or Howland Reed.
But I’m really enjoying my third read-through (taking notes) and my dive into all the message board craziness.
Part of the reason so much insanity has come out of the fandom for ASoIaF is, of course, that GRRM takes the fuck forever to write a book, and people get so antsy for new material that they start making it up.
But another part of it is something I’m coming to appreciate a lot more now that I’m reading up on all the tinfoil. Namely, it’s that these books have zoom to them. There’s detail to support vastly different levels of reader involvement and scrutiny, and it’s to such a degree that of course it takes the dude longer to write.
Reading the books for the surface-level story? No problem. Starks and Lannisters and Targaryans. It works.
Reading to see what you may have missed the first time around? Jon Snow’s parentage, what happened with Jaqen H’ghar, who the Knight of the Laughing Tree was? No problem; it’s in there, but you may have to assemble the puzzle pieces yourself.
And you can go even further than that. Reasonable inferences based on GRRM’s proclivities or the way characters seem to work. Prophecies and Easter eggs and casual asides.
It just goes a bit awry when people squint so hard looking for clues that they start seeing canals on Mars. The lemon tree means Dany grew up in Dorne, which is why R+L=D. Roose Bolton is an immortal skin-changer who is waiting for the right moment to skin Ramsay. Everyone who isn’t Varys is Euron/Daario/Benjen or Howland Reed.
But I’m really enjoying my third read-through (taking notes) and my dive into all the message board craziness.
Steve Mains I like video games like Dark Souls for that same reason. “Zoom” is a terrific way of describing it.
Steve Mains I like video games like Dark Souls for that same reason. “Zoom” is a terrific way of describing it.