28 thoughts on “My Stage 1 game didn’t make it through to the end for #threeforged :-(.”

  1. Me too Jason Cordova. Exactly the same experience for me. I feel like all that work (hours and hours) I put into other people’s games was done in a great spirit of collaboration. I tried to make their things better, more awesome. And now I find that someone didn’t do that for me. It’s like giving gifts at a Christmas party and silently watching everyone esle open theirs without one to open yourself. Bittersweet.

  2. Me too Jason Cordova. Exactly the same experience for me. I feel like all that work (hours and hours) I put into other people’s games was done in a great spirit of collaboration. I tried to make their things better, more awesome. And now I find that someone didn’t do that for me. It’s like giving gifts at a Christmas party and silently watching everyone esle open theirs without one to open yourself. Bittersweet.

  3. I’m really sorry to hear this! Would you be interested in having someone (I am volunteering) do yours? Wouldn’t be eligible to win, obvs. Perhaps we could even find a third person so it’s properly threeforged.

  4. I’m really sorry to hear this! Would you be interested in having someone (I am volunteering) do yours? Wouldn’t be eligible to win, obvs. Perhaps we could even find a third person so it’s properly threeforged.

  5. Guys, same experience here.

    My game was dropped.

    I have two things to say…

    One: the experience for me was really interesting anyway.

    The process was not just about the first game… it was less and less about it, and more about the design challenge itself.

    I wrote a rant against people dropping games, but relaxed into a more understanding position afterwards… still, it makes me a bit sad that my game was dropped because I feel like I lost the chance to see what an anonymous would do of my design. I was very, very curious…

    Nevertheless: I am going to do my reading and my voting. I have games 2 and 3 in the list of those that made it to the end, and they’re not fully mine, but still, mine.

    Second thing: here’s the three of us, with 3 stage-1 drafts that didn’t make to the end.

    I bet you can imagine what I am going to suggest 🙂

    Who’s taking mine for “round-2”?

    Who’s sending his for my “round-2” editing?

    We’ll have to be very understanding with each other since we’re not shielded by anonymity now, but hell, I bet we can handle it.

  6. Guys, same experience here.

    My game was dropped.

    I have two things to say…

    One: the experience for me was really interesting anyway.

    The process was not just about the first game… it was less and less about it, and more about the design challenge itself.

    I wrote a rant against people dropping games, but relaxed into a more understanding position afterwards… still, it makes me a bit sad that my game was dropped because I feel like I lost the chance to see what an anonymous would do of my design. I was very, very curious…

    Nevertheless: I am going to do my reading and my voting. I have games 2 and 3 in the list of those that made it to the end, and they’re not fully mine, but still, mine.

    Second thing: here’s the three of us, with 3 stage-1 drafts that didn’t make to the end.

    I bet you can imagine what I am going to suggest 🙂

    Who’s taking mine for “round-2”?

    Who’s sending his for my “round-2” editing?

    We’ll have to be very understanding with each other since we’re not shielded by anonymity now, but hell, I bet we can handle it.

  7. Ha! It does sound tempting. I think you guys are a bit further along than I am emotionally, though. You win; you are better people and not bitter people! 🙂 At this point I’m just disillusioned enough to not want to do any more work on anyone else’s games. I figure I’ll just take my stage 1, brush it off, and release it on my own. I realize this is the equivalent of jerking off at home because I couldn’t get a date to the prom! Maybe in 12-24 hours I will feel differently. 

  8. Ha! It does sound tempting. I think you guys are a bit further along than I am emotionally, though. You win; you are better people and not bitter people! 🙂 At this point I’m just disillusioned enough to not want to do any more work on anyone else’s games. I figure I’ll just take my stage 1, brush it off, and release it on my own. I realize this is the equivalent of jerking off at home because I couldn’t get a date to the prom! Maybe in 12-24 hours I will feel differently. 

  9. Ray Otus I’m right there with you. I appreciate the offers Davide Pignedoli and Joshua Fox, but I think I’m going to just polish up my game and release it here at some point.

    I do have thoughts on the contest, though. Still figuring out how I want to express them, but obviously they are going to be colored by this letdown.

  10. Ray Otus I’m right there with you. I appreciate the offers Davide Pignedoli and Joshua Fox, but I think I’m going to just polish up my game and release it here at some point.

    I do have thoughts on the contest, though. Still figuring out how I want to express them, but obviously they are going to be colored by this letdown.

  11. Yep. I am also trying to formulate my thoughts on the competition itself. They are mixed; which should suprise no one. I want to get a day or two of perspective first though. And I’m not sure if anyone even wants to hear my thoughts or where I will put them. 

  12. Yep. I am also trying to formulate my thoughts on the competition itself. They are mixed; which should suprise no one. I want to get a day or two of perspective first though. And I’m not sure if anyone even wants to hear my thoughts or where I will put them. 

  13. I am, on the other hand, tempted by the offer of Joshua Fox 🙂

    But before asking him to do this for my game (which he technically did not offer for my game specifically, so I really don’t want to abuse his offer to Jason), I will wait a couple of days… perhaps Jason and Ray will change their mind.

    I also took in consideration that my game was dropped because it was really not that good 🙂 That helps putting things in prospective.

    Sure, I tried not to judge the games I received, but to work at my best on them… but on the other hand, we knew not everybody would adhere to the same standards.

    Something like this was bound to happen, with so many games in the contest.

    It was unfortunate it happened to me 🙂 but I am sure it was not “personal”. It was just bad luck.

  14. I am, on the other hand, tempted by the offer of Joshua Fox 🙂

    But before asking him to do this for my game (which he technically did not offer for my game specifically, so I really don’t want to abuse his offer to Jason), I will wait a couple of days… perhaps Jason and Ray will change their mind.

    I also took in consideration that my game was dropped because it was really not that good 🙂 That helps putting things in prospective.

    Sure, I tried not to judge the games I received, but to work at my best on them… but on the other hand, we knew not everybody would adhere to the same standards.

    Something like this was bound to happen, with so many games in the contest.

    It was unfortunate it happened to me 🙂 but I am sure it was not “personal”. It was just bad luck.

  15. my stage 1 game didn’t make it either, no big surprise, it was not very good. but I had high hopes for my stage 2 game.  interestingly enough my stage 3 game did make it, probably because I worked on it and submitted it.  Here is the thing, I had to turn it in still very short of the minimum word count (700+1000+2000).  I don’t think it will/should win but it got on the list.

    Does this mean that the dropped game designers simply returned nothing?  could Jason Cordova’s stage 2 and 3 people simply have reposted his game with minimal/no effort? 

    I would also like to see the intermediate steps, the stage 1 & 2 submissions.  Maybe after the voting takes place.  I have a good idea of who originally created my stage 2 game so I will probably share my submission with him later.  I kind of also want to know who dropped their games.  maybe the next contest should remember them.  I could probably forgive whoever got my stage 1 but then again I thought very little of both the games I edited when I first got them.

  16. my stage 1 game didn’t make it either, no big surprise, it was not very good. but I had high hopes for my stage 2 game.  interestingly enough my stage 3 game did make it, probably because I worked on it and submitted it.  Here is the thing, I had to turn it in still very short of the minimum word count (700+1000+2000).  I don’t think it will/should win but it got on the list.

    Does this mean that the dropped game designers simply returned nothing?  could Jason Cordova’s stage 2 and 3 people simply have reposted his game with minimal/no effort? 

    I would also like to see the intermediate steps, the stage 1 & 2 submissions.  Maybe after the voting takes place.  I have a good idea of who originally created my stage 2 game so I will probably share my submission with him later.  I kind of also want to know who dropped their games.  maybe the next contest should remember them.  I could probably forgive whoever got my stage 1 but then again I thought very little of both the games I edited when I first got them.

  17. I learned that my game made it through Stage II and got dropped in Stage III. 

    I suppose I had this coming, to be honest. My whole life organization philosophy centers around the concept of execution, meaning you don’t start things you can’t finish, or promise things you can’t deliver. It’s what makes The Gauntlet so great. Naturally, my game will get drawn by someone who can’t fulfill their obligations. 

  18. I learned that my game made it through Stage II and got dropped in Stage III. 

    I suppose I had this coming, to be honest. My whole life organization philosophy centers around the concept of execution, meaning you don’t start things you can’t finish, or promise things you can’t deliver. It’s what makes The Gauntlet so great. Naturally, my game will get drawn by someone who can’t fulfill their obligations. 

  19. Uh huh. I strive to follow the same philosophy, Jason Cordova. I really and truly dislike the “deadlines are the date on which you need to have your excuse ready” mode of thinking. For that reason alone I would be hesitant to do #threeforged  again. Structurally it is one of those things where your efforts can dead-end with someone else’s failure to live up to their promise. At the same time, Jason Morningstar said a clever thing in another Threeforged thread, “It’s hard to lose, since if a designer didn’t improve on your thing, you still have your thing.” That is a good perspective. And yet I am still unhappy that I put the time in when others didn’t. It’s a case of “_something_ ventured, nothing gained.” Saying “nothing lost either!” doesn’t change my disappointment and it isn’t even really true. I contributed a fair number of hours without the expected ROI.

  20. Uh huh. I strive to follow the same philosophy, Jason Cordova. I really and truly dislike the “deadlines are the date on which you need to have your excuse ready” mode of thinking. For that reason alone I would be hesitant to do #threeforged  again. Structurally it is one of those things where your efforts can dead-end with someone else’s failure to live up to their promise. At the same time, Jason Morningstar said a clever thing in another Threeforged thread, “It’s hard to lose, since if a designer didn’t improve on your thing, you still have your thing.” That is a good perspective. And yet I am still unhappy that I put the time in when others didn’t. It’s a case of “_something_ ventured, nothing gained.” Saying “nothing lost either!” doesn’t change my disappointment and it isn’t even really true. I contributed a fair number of hours without the expected ROI.

  21. Ray Otus Yeah, I’m just not feeling super-generous about this whole thing right now. I spent a lot of hours on my Stage II and Stage III submissions, and it really ticks me off that I didn’t get something back in return. I mean, honestly, I think my Stage I game was pretty complete to begin with, and maybe that is what made it difficult to work with (and who knows what happened to it in Stage II), but the Stage III guy could have done any number of things to add word count, such as an extended example of play, in order to simply turn something in.

    And I REALLY want to know who it was. 

  22. Ray Otus Yeah, I’m just not feeling super-generous about this whole thing right now. I spent a lot of hours on my Stage II and Stage III submissions, and it really ticks me off that I didn’t get something back in return. I mean, honestly, I think my Stage I game was pretty complete to begin with, and maybe that is what made it difficult to work with (and who knows what happened to it in Stage II), but the Stage III guy could have done any number of things to add word count, such as an extended example of play, in order to simply turn something in.

    And I REALLY want to know who it was. 

  23. Joshua Fox I am trying to understand if there was a stage-2 work done on it, so I could pass you that… 

    If instead it was dropped from the start, I will pass you my original rtf but it would be great if there was also a 3rd participant in this so it would not fall all on you…

  24. Joshua Fox I am trying to understand if there was a stage-2 work done on it, so I could pass you that… 

    If instead it was dropped from the start, I will pass you my original rtf but it would be great if there was also a 3rd participant in this so it would not fall all on you…

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